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. they will argue that they run at the state level, they're elected at the state level. even though the election was close and president obama won and that is what the majority wanted. at the end of the day, i think that notion about fiscal conservative and those notions are ever present for the governor who is are strapped with facing real issues relative to their budgets. i interviewed a governor about implementing obama care in the wake of all this. i think there is -- it's still very, very early to talk about who in the field. but all of these folks in their own right, i think, bring strengths and all that of will -- we're going to have time to met out. they have states to run. >> we got a country to run. >> i want to ask on this. what i heard you say, this deficit reduction, the economic questions, part of what i'm interested in, post '08 the conservative voices that emerge were the limbaughs and the glenn beck rather than elected leaders. what i'm wondering, is there a way in which elected republicans might help to move conservatism towards an actual conservatism as opposed to the social a
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